There were a lot of factors since 2001 which were out of any pilot's control. SARS's scared passengers away for a while, 140/ barrel oil caused havoc, 2008 mkt. crash, age 65, etc. The larger view is Wall Street and the mgmt. class have figured out how to ALWAYS get bonuses despite economic conditions. The middle class in this country has been severely depleted due to outsourcing.

All out of our direct control.

At the local level, however, what is intolerable is a shoddy mgmt. which destroys their own company and then expects employees to pick up the pieces--again and again. It's never going to stop if WE don't stop it. The seniority system has us boxed in and we cannot vote with our feet w/o committing a very bad self-inflicted wound. No wonder we are all frustrated and ****ed-off.