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Old 05-31-2014 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
OK.. time for my "cop out" question. What are Yu willing to pay for large RJ reduction? Personally I am not willing to pay one red cent for something that is never going to amount to anything anyway... YMMV.

Similar question with the AS carve out. While I think that possible could rekindle, it doesn't appear that it is likely. So caution in this area, tempered with healthy skepticism is warranted. Jury's out on this one for me....

I have already conceded that we aren't really gonna benefit from Virgin Atlantic other than a little domestic feed here and there and that will be pretty invisible to us.... Maybe we can make some gains elsewhere....
200ish DC-9-10 sized aircraft are mainline aircraft and should be flown by our pilots. Its our largest fleet type by seat range category. They are absolutely mainline jobs.

What will I give up to get that? I'll take a huge raise instead of a massive raise.

I don't really agree with the premise you're setting though. If everything comes at a price, and its basically a zero sum game, and the deck is stacked against us and all that, then what are we "willing to give up" to get anything?

Getting a raise? What are we willing to give up? More retirement? What are we going to cut to fund it?

If we stay unified we have leverage. Lots of it. We won't get it overnight but we'll never get it if we give up before we start and allow the company to frame the debate as a pie that they determine the size of and we have to fight amongst ourselves for scraps.

Scope at all levels is critical. Section One isn't some boutique clause for triple dipping players. Its the absolute foundation of the entire contract. Everything else is, literally, subordinate to it. I want and expect gains and improvements in every single Section One area.