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Old 06-02-2014 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by El Gwopo
Don't remember LUAL pilots waving the BS flag when they wanted a higher pay rate for the 747. That delayed stuff. THANKS!
They had moved beyond that issue in 2010. But hey as an Airbus guy, I say thanks to you!

How did we get pay banding in this TA and how did the 767-400 get banded with the 777 and 747-400? · The TA pay banding was a compromise of two different experiences and was one issue the JNC could not resolve internally. The MECs ultimately gave direction to their respective Negotiating Committees in 2010:
o Prior to commencing joint negotiations, the top CAL pay band already included the 767-400
o CAL MEC was for maintaining banding because their bands pulled pay up through the captured value of reduced training costs
o UAL MEC was against banding because their bands pulled pay down in BK
· MECs had to resolve this issue before the JNC could pass a comprehensive proposal to the Company
o JNC sought direction from their respective MECs but the MECs could not agree
o JNC continued to explore ways to pay aircraft based on seat capacity, flight range, weight, thrust, seat and cargo capacity, etc. but could not find a solution that was satisfactory to both MECs.
o October 2010 the JNC came up with pay scales to present to their respective MECs as a starting point for pay discussions. Neither MEC found an acceptable solution and further discussions were needed
· UAL Merger Council was brought in for a Special MEC meeting in Denver on November 11-12, 2010
o Merger Committee and Merger Counsel briefed United MEC and provided clarity on the issue
o UAL MEC passed direction to the United MEC Negotiating Committee regarding pay bands based on the clear input of our Merger Council and Merger Committee
o TA pay bands were crafted per this direction, and with close consideration of the current and planned fleet composition, with special attention given to ensuring value would be directed in the proper direction

Although the UAL MEC sought to unband the pay rates, both the Company and the CAL MEC wanted to maintain bands albeit for different reasons; the Company enjoyed the reduced training costs, and the CAL MEC was driven by their experience of using bands to pull lower-paying equipment up to a higher rate. As evidence of this, notice that the CAL 737 pay raise in the TA is only 12%, the lowest of any fleet, confirming that the 737 benefited from being banded-up previously. Additionally, the banding increased the 320 pay well above the industry comparison.
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