Originally Posted by
kimba
First of all what's wrong with Great Lakes? Have you ever been there? I haven't, so I don't express opinion of a company that I don't know.
Lakes, today, is looking for pilot with 500tt and 20 multi (desired) according by the ad that was on the website findapilot.com.
In order to build 1200 for AMF or ATP min in order to apply to a regional you generally have two option, CFI for a part 141 school, so that you can build time fast, but they pay 15-20$ an hour or go for several jobs around, flight time and pay are really variable.
So the point is, if you are willing to make 15$/hr flying as a CFI why not making the same money flying a TURBINE plane multi crew, operating both part 135 and 121 logging 100hrs a month?
For low time people I'd suggest a talk to Lakes recruiter.
How good is the company? I don't know.
There is so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to start. You continuously rant on and on about how terrible the pay at AMF is, yet Great Lakes pays captains far less than AMF pay. This statement alone completely disbands any argument you have about pay at AMF along with most of your credibility, well what's left at least.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the 500 hours TT and 20 ME must be for FO's, right? Surely they aren't hiring PIC's with only 500 TT into the B1900. If they are then there is an accident waiting to happen.
Originally Posted by
kimba
I'm sorry to disappoint you but I've been fired by AMF.
Actually none has ever fired me but all the other jobs I did gave me a letter of recommendation. Yes, I already have the three letters that some major would like to have (delta).
The king of aggressive attitude you show here when someone express an opinion different from yours is exactly the AMF attitude!
You better do what you are told to do or the reaction will be aggressive and offensive.
The more I see your post the more I'm happy I didn't belong there.
And for the people out there who are still thinking to apply
STAY AWAY FROM AMF!!!
I'm a little confused on this one. Which one is it? You were fired from AMF or you weren't? You say you were and then you say none have ever fired you? I'm assuming you mean you've never been fired.
You have three letters of recommendations for Delta? Are they from Delta Pilots? If not they probably won't help you much. If they are, as soon as delta sees your poor use of the english language, along with your lacking critical thinking skills, you probably do not stand much of a chance.
The aggressive attitude your receiving is a result of your unwillingness to listen to anything anybody has to say.
Originally Posted by
kimba
This is a copy and paste from SW website today.
2 PIC for this purpose is defined as Captain/Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls. For military personnel, Southwest Airlines will allow flight time logged as "Pilot in Command" (PIC) only if you are the Captain/Aircraft Commander, Evaluator, or Instructor Pilot. Primary time will only be considered PIC on a specific aircraft after an individual upgrades to Aircraft Commander in the appropriate aircraft. Time logged as "Other Time" will not be considered.
If you read the whole thing, they consider Primary flight time only after you upgrade in the appropriate aircraft. I may be wrong but the way I see it is what I've been saying for days taking **** from everybody!
Turbine PIC that matters is when you upgrade, not when you are the pilot in command of your self!
By the way, the website doesn't say it, but southwest doesn't give you an interview if you don't have ALSO a 737 type rating that for sure you won't get at AMF and you won't be able to pay it out of your pocket considering the money you'll make.
Back to the pay, I'll put my broken disk again, if AMF is the best in what they do, why they hire a turbine PIC to pay him/her less than a SIC on a turbine flying the same kind of plane in a part 135?
Do you want a turbine PIC? Pay turbine PIC!
For the upgrade to the metroliner or whatever they promise, those are only promises and the relative paycheck is a promise as well. Reality is that a company upgrades pilot only when they need it and not when the recruiter said during the interview process. Than after you upgrade, you'll start as a reserve, like in all the company, so even this logging time will be very variable.
As I said in my broken disk, recruiters are recruiters! They do their job, DONT BE FOOLED!!!
Trust me I am more than familiar with the smoke and mirrors game that recruiters like to play, after all that's what they get paid for. However, I personally know someone that was offered the Metro after 6 month on property.
You're reading comprehension skills also leave much to be desired. I read everything on the Southwest website. A 737 type rating is NOT required for an applicant to interview. If the applicant passes the interview the applicant then has six months to get a 737 type.
1 A Candidate may apply without a B-737 Type Rating. If a candidate interviews and successfully completes the entire selection process, he/she has six months from the date to obtain a B-737 Type Rating to be eligible for hire.
The PIC time is broken down the way it is on the website to stop people from logging PIC time from the right seat when they are pilot flying and are checked out and rated in the appropriate category and class. They want the person who actually signed for the aircraft, the one who has final authority over safety of flight.
If they way you put it is true then how on earth would any single seat fighter pilot be able to get a job at Southwest?
I happened to have met quite a few SWA pilots that were F16 drivers.