Originally Posted by
slats fail
I don't know the history, but was Comair hiring at the time? I can understand you being upset if these furloughs were being passed over for new hires, but was that the case or would Comair have had to furlough junior guys to make room? Was there any flow back agreement? Honest question, I don't know the answer.
If not, why would you have anymore importance than a junior Comair FO? Just because they contract for Delta, doesn't make them the same company. You or any other furloughee are not entitled to a job at Comair anymore than a Comair guy, or now Endeavor guy, is at Delta. I think that's where people have an issue with your attitude. That and the whole "regional guys stole my job."
Like somebody else said, if you focused on bringing the regional flying in house, you'd get a nice little seniority bump and furlough protection. Maybe even an upgrade on a crj900? That's what we all want, jobs at mainline, not bickering between two pilot groups who want the same thing, but blame each other for their plight. Us regional pukes are essentially powerless, anytime improvements are sought, our flying can be stripped away and our jobs transfered to the next cheapest operator. We all want out as soon as possible. You mainline guys hold all the power and are the only ones who can enact positive change.
I have been one of the most vocal guys on this board advocating for all flying coming back to mainline. I have always maintained that RJ pilots are capable and professional..just that everyone should have to interview. In fact, I am one of the only mainline guys who talk up RJ experience and qualifications being extremely competitive for any airline. I just don't buy the sob story when DL is offering a HUGE advantage to everyone at 9E.
As far as Comair..there wasnt any flow back and Comair hired 60/mo as DL furloughed almost the same amount. When DL bought Comair, several senior Comair captains pushed for DOH integration.. DL pilots balked at that and we wound up with the rejected DL furougjees and the RJDC. When the DL MEC approached Comair to let DL furloughees INTERVIEW and start at the bottom in the RIGHT seat in exchange for preferential hiring at DL when the smoke cleared. The Comair MEC rejected our offer and that started the "class warfare"..so be it.
I agree that it's up to mainline..but I don't think the company or the union wants to risk SLI lawsuits after a staple. I was initially against the "flow and SSP", but isn't that effectively getting to the same end result of ALL flying under one banner? Why is it such a slap in the face for a EtD new hire to get interviewed by DL at the beginning of his/her career and current 9E pilots do it just before coming over to mainline? They won't be at DL before any current 9E pilots!
As far as my "attitude"..maybe it's very similar to the sentiments Envoy or RAH pilots have towards PSA or whoever else voted to undercut their rates and fly big shiny jets. RJ's replaced us, now other RJ's are gonna replace them. I don't see you guys bashing them..what's the difference? What if DL LCA's we're looking for former Comair pilots just to bust them once they got on with DL?
Bottom line..DL pilots don't look "down" on RJ guys..we just know that you replaced us for more than a decade. Now you get flow and SSP and somehow DL is screwing you again..