Originally Posted by tsquare

I am not saying that we don't have any leverage. Well, I am saying that at this particular point in time, it is limited, but you know that. You talk about a "long protracted battle with pilots". When could that start? Today? Tomorrow? Next week? I think that is when our perception of leverage differs. Personally, and this is not "managing expectation", I think it would be pretty futile to go out and start a FUPM campaign right now because our contract isn't even amendable for another year and a half, but maybe you can convince me otherwise. Like gzsg says... baby steps. But let's say that I misunderstand what it is that you are looking for at this point in time. A goal statement? Is that it? Or are you ready to go nuclear tomorrow? I think that you have to "manage" the pilots fervor wrt (for lack of a better word) anger over current conditions. You and gzsg are perpetually angry over what you perceive as our lot wrt the current state of the company. I get that. I understand it. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I understand it. So how do you rally the troops to follow your lead? There are a ton of guys out there that won't give a rat's tail about this until it comes time to negotiate the contract, and that isn't for awhile. Which then leads me to think you believe we can negotiate a brand spanking new contract, right now, based solely on the company's most recent quarterly statements. Again, I challenge you to make the business case for that.`Remember, our contract is much better than any one else's in the industry as a whole. So make the case other than community organizing. Hopey Changey sucks as a strategy.