Originally Posted by EdGrimley

Wow, I post a transcript of the company talking about how well they are doing (historically well) along with a member of the management team selling some of his stock for 6 million and a bunch of guys show up here stating we have no leverage, take what is offered then cite lots of reasons we shouldn't expect much.

I'm baffled by the white flag waiving. Management reads these boards. He11 management apparently posts on this board. Even if you think we have no leverage why post that to let management see we have already accepted we should get cost neutral or a net loss in everything we do with them?

I tend to side with the guys who say the starting point is to state our goals clearly and get all the troops behind it. No matter the obstacles unless you engage the whole group by bringing them into the process you lesson your ability to get anything done. Maybe that is part of the apathy we are seeing. Most know the union leadership are not willing to make the necessary changes to really rally the troops and therefore we should expect very little.

History is full of insurmountable obstacles that were overcome. Those who overcame were willing to stand up and put all resources into action. To create a strategy, write down goals, rally those around them. Unfortunately we aren't seeing much of that from our union leadership. They pacify with a few bold words but when we have an opportunity a cost neutral solution is put forward and spun as a win. Why not do things a different way. We need to re-evaluate constructive engagement. It's become a problem for us getting compensation, work rules, QOL, etc back on track.