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Old 06-07-2014 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
I think it matters less and less what the other airlines are doing. This management team has consistently said we want to be viewed as a leading transport company not just an airline company. So let's use that when we demand our restoration. Management cannot say to investors we are a leading transport company and tell us in negotiation we are an average airline.
Pay up
I agree we have no peer in the industry, however this was posted on the UAL/CAL part of this website

1) Why are our pay rates less than DAL?
· Overall total contract value in 2013 matches DAL, then surpasses DAL in 2014
· We could have matched DAL pay rates in 2013 but we put the money in other areas of the contract
o 2013 our B/C fund defined contribution is 2% greater than DAL
o 2013 profit sharing percentage is greater than DAL
o Vacation value is greater than DAL
o Health care plans are better than DAL
o M5D rig will increase our W-2 compared to DAL despite lower pay rates

So we can move up in these areas if they are true.

The key takeaway IMO for this is the differential now is much lower than in 2012. Same for AA and the old OMGWTF USAir contract. Not to mention our company is doing way better now than it was doing then, with an even brighter projected future. They are literally scrambling around trying to find places to dump money. They are flushing over 2 billion into a black hole that won't help the company long term and they are still rolling in it.

We can make very good gains without having to "United Plus" anyone.

I do worry a little about not making enough gains. I worry way more about how much we may end up "paying for" whatever gains we get.