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Old 06-12-2014 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CheapTrick
That seems like a reasonable summary of the PBS/Contract efficiency that we gave DAL. Metrics as it were.

Sailing, I like your posts. You deliver your point of view with a Joe Friday delivery. I would imagine that you are very straight forward in your approach to life. Some here take it as condescending, but I believe it is just a reflection of personality and conviction. I actually prefer it to the chest thumping hype that also permeates this board, but... let me offer this.

The really good posters balance their message with expertise, insight, affability, humor, and a willingness to exchange ideas. I'm thinking NewKnow, Bar, Buzzpat, Denny, et al. Perhaps you could include a joke or throw DPA a small compliment. You don't have to mean it. Or you could just get crazy and post dirty pics. At least Timbo would approve.
Let's see what we can do for Sailing.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I was told that by a knowledgeable person working in contract admin. PBS alone produces zero decreases in staffing. How it is programmed is what reduces jobs for the company. You could program PBS to mimic the old line system in awards and have no gains.
The vacation changes alone were worth 500 Captains positions. That is huge. Captains used to get up to 7 weeks of vacation and the first two weeks could generate a entire month off each. Elimination of the hard cap was huge. Getting rid of bow wave was huge. If tomorrow we changed to getting paid a max of ALV only with flying above that carried into bow wave the company would need close to a 1000 pilots overnight.
Vacation, PBS, bow wave and loss of the bow wave as a whole are over 20% of the lost jobs. The remaining 4 or 5 percent is buried in tens of smaller changes.
[crack knuckles sound] okay, let's do a little treatment on this and let's troll 80 with some Emma Watson gifs at the same time. Also, we need some run on sentences because that's what we Neanderthals do.

Originally Posted by sailingfun
Well, I know what you're getting at but PBS isn't the enemy per se, it's how it's programed that is the problem. You could program PBS to mimic the old line system and we could drop trips again for vacation.



The vacation changes alone were worth 500 Captains positions and that is huge because Captains used to get up to 7 weeks of vacation and the first two weeks could generate a entire month off each and the elimination of the hard cap was huge as was getting rid of the bow wave was huge so we kissed a lot of things goodbye.



If tomorrow we changed to getting paid a max of ALV only with flying above that carried into bow wave the company would need close to a 1000 pilots overnight. I mean that would be like walking into the bathroom and finding Hermonie asking why I haven't gotten in the tub yet.



Vacation, PBS, bow wave and loss of the bow wave as a whole are over 20% of the lost jobs. It totally sucks. Add on another 4 or 5 percent is buried in tens of smaller changes.

Sucks.