Originally Posted by automatique
I assume you weren't working a 121 flight at the time you did the latter!
I'm not arguing the science isn't there. I'm saying JB scheduling can't handle it. Let's use a more benign pairing. BUF-JFK-SLC-JFK. MX, wx, whatever, the flight is delayed on the ground in SLC. Do you think the crew should continue up to the FAR limit of a 16 hour duty day? I don't. I'm sure the "guidlines" that acompany this won't either. Do you think JB is going to Lear Jet a crew into SLC to keep within those company "guidlines"? Right. The magic P-R mantra will be invoked (profit-sharing).
And the trip will continue...
In talking to those in the test, the primary goal is two legs, with the ability to go above 8 hours, but remain within the normal scheduled 14 duty day and remaining on a eastcoast night sleep cycle (or west coast for LGB guys) and no redeye turns as that is out of our normal sleep cycle. There may be some type or rest restrictions after such a trips but unknow at this time. Thus the BUF-JFK-LGB-JFK or the BUF-JFK-SLC-JFK is out because that is has 3 legs in it. I see some definte transcon turns JFK-LAS-JFK or JFK-LGB-JFK et al, but also allows some really creative parings like this
Day 1 JFK-MCO-JFK-TPA RON (7.5 hours)
Day 2 TPA-JFK-LGB RON (9.0 hours)
Day 3 LGB-JFK-Buf-JFK end (7.5 hours)
That gives 24 hours in 3 days for an average of 8 hour per day.
For LGB it could be:
Day 1 LGB-JFK-MCO RON (7.5 hours)
Day 2 MCO-JFK-OAK RON (9.0 hours)
Day 3 OAK-JFK-LGB end (11.5 hours)
That gives 28 hours in 3 days. Man, I would love to get a schedule like that! They are all built with less than 8 hours per day with 3+ legs or if over 8 hours, then 2 legs max.
Now, yes the senior guys may get a schedule like this (depending on rest requirements)
Day 1 JFK-OAK-JFK (11+30 hours)
Day 2 JFk-OAK-JFK (11+30 hours)
Day 3 JFK-FLL-JFK (5+40 hours)
or
Day 1 JFK-OAK-JFK (11+30 hours)
Day 2 JFk-FLL-JFK late in the day for extra rest after Transcon turn (5+40)
Day 3 JFK-OAK-JFK (11+30) hours
for a total of 28+40 in three days. Working a total of 86 hours in 9 days. As a senior bidder that is what they would get. But if senior guys get 85 in 9 days, hopefull, the junior guys will be able to get 85 ours in 12 days! That would be real progress!
Now who knows what will happen, but I think it will work out. (keeping my fingers crossed).
Just my opinion....
FNG
