Originally Posted by
Sink r8
My point is that, whether you're getting assigned a trip, or a series of trips, you look at the last 168 hours from the start of that FDP, and you need to find the 30 hours.
So, say you finish vacation on a Sunday, and had back-to-back trips (4-day and a 3-day) starting at 1600 on Monday, and you had several layovers during the week, but no break =/> 30 hours. It's now Sunday morning, and you have a FDP that starts at 0900, and ends at 1800.
You're thinking you're illegal, because during the entire week, including the FDP you're about to start, you didn't have 30 hours break.
Except that 168 hours back from the START of that last FDP takes you back to the previous Sunday at 0900. From that moment, to the start of your first FDP on Monday, you actually had 31 hours rest.
Legal, IMO.
So you need 30 hours in 168 to START a FDP, not by the end of the FDP. Meaning, IOW, that you need "30 in 168 PLUS a FDP", which feels a lot like "30 in 7.5 days", or "30 in 7 days plus a workday", or a little like "30 in 8".
Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah that is definately a loophole. I'd like to see ALPA lobby the Colgan victims (the most powerful and influential lobby group in airline history) and let them know some of these "worse than the old system" loopholes that are in there. I bet they'd also be interested in companies wanting to redefine how they calculate the start of block time. If you were door or beacon for decades as most have been and suddenly now are going to wheel spin, that pushes the safety envelope by 5 minutes per flight easy. Legal, but clearly screws the intent of the regulations.