Originally Posted by
NERD
Quick 117 question. Rotation shows 13.00/15.00/9.00. Actual duty day is 11.26. At what point are we done? 15 is our max but at 13 are we done? And if we were to choose to walk is it a fatigue call to not extend beyond 13? Flying with a angry FO who is itching to walk at any chance and just trying to get the straight poop.
Don't forget that the :30 postflight does not count for FARs as rest or duty so you can go to 13:30 before extending or 15:30 after extending. You are 2:04 away from extending and 4:04 away from being done involuntarily.
I hate FAR 117. I believe it was a huge step back in rest issues and causes more fatigue. It looked good on paper until you read about the 2 hour extension and not including postflight in duty period which essentially extends every table 2:30. There's a reason why no airlines had to increase manning when it came out.
So far I haven't had a captain yet refuse to extend. Once our contract language goes into effect, it will be a pretty rare circumstance for me to extend. 13:30 and 14:30 are long enough days IMHO.