Originally Posted by gzsg

I'm sure you are much smarter than I am.

I got the same numbers from my fellow 1985 hires at United and American. As you know, they both already have pay banding. 4 bands.

They both stated the productivity gain for management is around 15%.

Imagine 9 fleets/8 bases and over 800 retirements in 12 months.

From my years of doing ALPA work, I estimate each retirement to result in 8 to 10 initial training cycles. But let's use 6.

800 X 6 = 4800. 4800 initial training cycles in 12 months. Never mind the cost, who will fly the planes?

And in the years when over 800 pilot retire at age 65, how many will really retire? 1100? 1200?

Right now retirements are running at 2 for every 1 scheduled to retire at age 65.

Pay banding is a massive concession that will further stagnate our careers. And if you are already at the top? Who cares? It won't harm you.

Pull up the ladder.