Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
Actually, Carl, I'm buying it. As a line pilot, I have no access to costing sheets put together by ALPA any more than I do to those put together by the Company. Have you seen their numbers?
The fact is that my reps, who did have access to every bit of data, looked me in the eye and told me exactly what Shiznit is saying here -- that our net increase in cost to the Company, after the pay rate increases, profit sharing decreases, vacation and CQ training pay increase, shift in bid periods, ALV expansion, etc., etc., was around $400M per year.
I believe them.
And you don't think that management has reason to spin data? The very people that need to justify to the BOD and Wall Street why they've just given the most expensive pilot group in the industry another $400M a year? You don't think they have any need for spin?
Really?
First you say you don't have access to costing data produced by either entity, then you proclaim as if it was a fact that we're the "most expensive pilot group in the industry." Your personal opinion is fine, but you seemed to state that as fact.
Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
Yes, we're seeing the Company give pay raises to the other employees. Welcome to the anti-union initiative. Are they back to pre-BK wages? I don't know. What does that even mean? We were back to pre-BK (but post-LOA #46) prior to C2012. So what?
And do you really think they needed concessions from us to be able to afford to give raises after the profits we've been generating recently?
Like I said to sailingfun, you can try to define
what management actually says all you want. You're entitled to reading into it what you wish. I think they were quite clear. All other employee groups at Delta are back to their pre-bankruptcy wages...but not pilots.
Carl