Originally Posted by
skypilot35
Do you honestly think that Eagle, PSA, Mesa and republic would have been better of non-union and at the whim of their managements? This is what a lot of anti-union people miss. It's not just the gains. It also mitigating the loses when times are not good.[/QUOTE
I don't think it could be any worse....management seemed to do mostly what they wanted even though a union was in place and when they couldn't they totally f@cked their pilots over. Where was the benefit?
My point, if I were to have one, is that ALPA is a Major airline union and I am curious if you were to ask the pilots who lost their pensions a few years ago how they felt about their union, what kind of response you'd get.
I am neither pro nor anti-union. I honestly do not believe the current representation at the majority of regionals (Compass seems solid) is funcitonal (has teeth).
I can DEFINITELY be a lot worse! They wouldn't need to ask a bankruptcy judge to throw out that pension or furlough out of seniority or slash your pay rates or impose PBS or take away medical benefits and give you only a high deductible health plan or they can reduce your sick bank or reduce your vacation or eliminate per diem or eliminate the defined contribution plan or eliminate your long term disability insurance.
If you don't think that Ornstien or any other management wouldn't do this when times are bad, then I don't know what to tell you. Most of these things are all things that management would do tomorrow at LXJT if we were non union. So please don't be so naive to think that it would not be any worse because it certainly would.