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Old 07-07-2014 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Jerry,

First of all, thank you for the reply PM. I agree that we must stand strong AGAINST concessions for C2015. In this time of record profits and industry health, I don't believe we should have to "trade" anything for contract improvements either.

Secondly, ya gotta stop using the previous six months of this year's retirements as a "data point" to "cost future retirements." It just doesn't hold water.

I mentioned in a previous post, you then replied, it IS NOT a linear curve, especially based on only the previous six months. Mandatory retirements are listed below:
2014: 62
2015: 170
2016: 229
2017: 287
2018: 416
2019: 511
2020: 613

With what you've stated, we should have 4576 retirements between 2014 & 2020? I wish, but that's not a realistic number.

As someone else posted, it normally averages the mandatory retirements, PLUS 1% of the seniority list. (~120) With 62 mandatory retirements this year, plus ~120 pilots, I expect to see ~182 pilot retirements for 2014. Approximately 71 remaining retirements for 2014. (Average six/month for remainder of the year, might be slightly low.) Next year, 170 mandatory retirements, plus 120 pilots lends to the possibility of 290 (2015) pilot retirements.

It's all a guess until it's in the past, but having our reps take a doubled number of retirements to the negotiating committee calling it "costed data" is doing nobody any good.

Thanks for your concern, at your seniority level. (I mean that.)

Kyle
Kyle

Nothing more than fun guessing the retirement rate.

You are guessing 182 for 2014.

My guess 233 for 2014.

Any number of reasons.

I think we will see 310 in 2015.

Jerry