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Old 07-08-2014 | 08:03 PM
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Scoop
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Do you seriously believe that you have been so abused here to be talking like this already? (Hopefully), this forum is not a microcosm of what the majority of DAL pilots feel like. (With the exception of your (disclaimer) that we would have to jump slowly through the required hoops, which by the way are a long long long way off) I would wager that the vast majority have little to zero interest in acting like what you seem to be advocating. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I have been ingesting too much koolaid for too many years, but from what I have seen, most pilots are pretty happy. Your post just makes you seem...... miserable.

T,


No maybe about it, you are definitely 100% wrong. I was not advocating anything. I repeat for clarity - I was not advocating anything I was answering a question.

How you can go from that to speculating about my happiness is beyond me.

It boggles my mind that you can so misread a simple question and answer. The OP asked what leverage we would have not what I think we should do.

I try to take the high road and not get into it with my fellow DAL pilots but you make it awfully hard. Go back and read the original question and then my response, maybe you will figure it out.


I will even make it easy for you. Here is the Original post:


Originally Posted by satchip

Jerry, and Purple et al, you espouse a "no concession" contract in 2015. Honest question here, what incentive would management have to even negotiate? Under the RLA, they can sit on our current contract forever and we would stagnate and lose ground to inflation. Are you that happy with our current deal that you would live with it for years beyond the amendable date?

Here is my response:


Originally Posted by Scoop

The goodwill of the Pilot group. If 12,000 Pilots stop going above and beyond the operation will suffer.

Just to be crystal-clear, I am not talking about about any type of covert wink-wink type of organized effort. I am talking about Pilots displaying leadership and initiative, preventing issues from even arising by being pro-active. If we stopped doing this, and most surely would, our performance would suffer badly.

Also under the RLA we can make a lot of noise and start taking all the steps leading up to a strike. Even if we were not allowed to strike if we were to slowly jump through the required hoops, with all the accompanying hoopla, passengers bookings could decrease.

Between just these two items and there are probably others, but I only have about 30 seconds of thought into this, we are not entirely without recourse.


To make it really, really, really, easy to grasp - here is the OP's original post boiled down to a single sentence:

"what incentive would management have to even negotiate?"

So try taking my post in context of that question. Before you come on here speculating about how miserable some of your fellow Pilots are, maybe you should double check your post before you submit.



Scoop



Last edited by Scoop; 07-08-2014 at 08:21 PM.