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Old 07-21-2014 | 06:51 AM
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Scoop
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Scoop,

By manipulating the carve outs, Delta builds the ATL BOG red eyes as a three day trip that pays < 11:50. (See ATL C705)

That makes a difference in your math and allows coverage awards to unstack to where you don't actually ever need a calendar day off. Potential worst case would be 21 days of flying for around 81 hours. It never gets that bad (and a guy would never survive it without a legit sick call if he ever decided to live anywhere but the Crew Lounge) but the worst case is very close to reality for the August schedules.

If you are on the 737, one option is to marry a girl from Columbus, Ohio (or Mexico City). It's actually my preferred 30 hours once a week overnight these days. I've even been working a side business there and booked my first $1,000 profit (might as well do something while sitting around)

The biggest surprise for many former express pilots is that Deta's schedules are considerably worse than anything in the regional world. I am at 96.5 hours block in 30 for 92 of credit in July and 81 in August & I'm not special, there's a lot of guys in this boat.


Bar,

I agree that the carve-out may somewhat affect the 5+15 but remember the 2200 to 2359 carve out is gone. All categories are different and in LAX on the 737 we currently have no trips that will be affected by the 0000 to 0200 carve out, and I am not sure how aggressively they will try to manipulate this.

The ATL -BOG trip may be one of the few that can be adjusted to avoid the 5+15.

Anyhow - I am curious to see what the post November bid packages look like.

Scoop
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