Originally Posted by
tsquare
I won't argue that point at all. But if it weren't for those other entities, Delta would not be the global power it is. So it is up to them to make themselves "more expensive". It is simply not practical for us to serve all markets into which we now have reach. It is extremely naive to believe otherwise. So we need to strike the balance. I agree that the JV flying is out of whack (or will be) and (sorry ACL) to say that it currently is not out of compliance while true, is legalese that is just silly. Anyone with a pulse that is remotely paying attention knows that it WILL be when the time comes. And like most on here, I believe we should be made whole. Now... how do we do that without "selling" jobs?
If you want the iron clad all encompassing scope clause, you need to work for SWA or ALK. (But I believe SWA's is in serious jeopardy.. JMHO)
ALK has no scope beyond what Endeavor has with Delta (similar fleet model). I was too over-educated for SWA and don't think enough of that torture chamber Boeing calls a 737NG to spend the rest of my professional life there. I think SWA has issues, but outsourcing is not one of them. Perhaps Jet Blue would be a better model to test your theory on and they do operate their own RJ's.
SWA needs only the right management, back office systems and procedures. Richard Anderson's team could do wonders with that place.
T, the answer is easy enough. Force Delta to staff our share, whether or not we perform it. Pilots move up the stove pipe and get paid; Delta loses the financial interest to engage in illegal self-help.
I find it interesting that if I engage in blatant self-help, I would be fired. When management does it, we talk and maybe exchange some percentage of the actual harm caused. Yes, I understand it was inconvenient to comply with our Contract, but how would Delta respond if we acted in similar fashion and stated,
"you know with Ebola, terrorists blowing things up and Malaria; we just don't find that back to back red eye trip that duties in after 22:00 just to cheat us out of a day's pay to be an appealing place to do business in."
There is a ridiculous double standard. If I'm ever President of ALPA, I'm going to kill the RLA, or die tryin.