Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Carl;
You know better. It had nothing to do with "didn't want."
This is troubling since I know you know better. DALPA was asked by its members why they omitted our JV competitors in the contract comparisons leading up to C2012. ALPA had that pay data. ALPA said they
did not want to publish it. They said their reason was that they were asked not to...while not producing any evidence of such communication. I found Air France's pay data in one minute and posted it here. It had everything to do with "didn't want." ALPA had the data, but didn't want to put it in the contract comparisons.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
I am sure your consulting business does business in Europe and you have some working knowledge of the EU laws, and because of this, you know that their collective agreements are not public record like ours. I am sure you also know what the France tax rate is on the AF pilots and what their social benefits are in retirement.
ALPA had the data. So did I. I published it here, ALPA wouldn't.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
All of this said, you also know that DALPA would have loved to get that information out, but for the AF pilots to disclose any of it, it had to be agreed upon that we would not detail it in a contract history or comparison.
Read above and you'll this statement of yours is completely false. And since you're a current rep, that troubles me. I would have hoped as a current rep you would be fighting hard for an open and completely transparent contract comparison. Instead, you're here now setting us up for why we will yet again NOT see our JV competitors' contract details in our contract comparisons...even though ALPA has the data.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
The simple fact is when looking at total W-2, v take home pay, v negotiated benefits, v their socialized benefits in retirement, and then comparing theirs to ours, there are area we are better in and areas they are better in. I would not classify us as equals but the differences are noted.
We don't know if that's a fact acl. It's clearly you're opinion, but please don't confuse your personal opinions with fact.
Carl