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Old 07-27-2014 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
We took the company's proposal before Section 6 even began.
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
Back to the same old argument from you. Let's at least debate the issues from a factual standpoint, and not from a standpoint of declaring things to be true of which we have no personal knowledge.

Or is your intent something other than to have an honest and open debate?
Alan, you're clearly a very big fan of DALPA and that's fine. But you get too testy when people point out the bad side of DALPA and there's no need for that. My only desire is honest and open debate. In that effort, I have been threatened and harassed via PM by sitting DALPA reps and administrators. I couldn't care less, but I tell you this so you'll know that history here shows DALPA as the uncomfortable entity with honest and open debate.

First of all, there's no question that our TA was agreed to completely outside the Section 6 process. Second, there are very few of us with personal knowledge because very few of us were in the room. When that happens, you must find evidence and connect dots...unless you just wish to believe whatever you're told. The fact that the entire process took two months before Section 6 even began and the NC and MEC administrators dutifully stated management's threat of what would happen if we didn't vote yes, shows me little to no negotiations took place.

Your beliefs seem to stem from what you've been told by DALPA. You have every right to do that. I also have the right to believe where the clear evidence points.

Carl
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