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Old 07-28-2014 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Denny, Scambo, DAL88, and gzsg,

Great thoughts from the group, and it's significant that "more percentage" in the 401k isn't as big a thing to the group (not that we wouldn't still like it)since the rising rates and 415c limit is a factor for a number of captains (I'd like it to be a factor for FO's too!).

With higher rates that multiply onto W2's it will do the work needed like DAL88 says. Would a 16-18%? 401k count toward the goal of "rates" restoration in the future then or not? It is another way to hide it from other employee groups, yet like Denny says it is just another line of his taxable income once the 415c limit is reached that is part of our W2's.

My math says 18.25% above 2015 to equal 2004 rates (for 7ERB).

As a purely hypothetical example let's say we somehow do something similar to C12 (but in a better way!): 6.5% early/9.5% on amendable/ 4%/4% (with no PS change) and another 2% into the 401k... That is a combined raise on the amendable date of 18.95%, or does 401k play no role in the restoration for you?

(I'm not allowed to include any PS talk in the "restoration equation", thanks 80!)

Would that meet one of your thresholds gzsg? (We need other stuff fixed, but this discussion is about Section 3 and 26)
A raise in the DC contribution is as good or better then a regular raise. Depending on income you get it tax free or as straight income or some combination. That's one reason your not seeing pilots who retained their DB plans leaving. The raise on 1 Jan 14 was as high as 18 percent for some depending on DB income accrued.
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