Originally Posted by
DoubleD
As an outsider looking in who works for place with 2 pay bands, narrow and wide, it is more complicated than some might think.
As to pilot movement and training costs. Whether a pilot changes planes or not is complicated in itself. The reasons are far more than pay alone. Schedules, domiciles/ commutes, equipment,layover cities and more. Sure pay enters into it but the reasons for changing planes are many.
True, and even with some additional banding there would still be pretty much identical training churn. Look at the rates from M88 to 320 for example. No one bids that just for the raise in hourly rate increase (unless they are ignorant of all aspects of the industry) because the differential is very small and vastly overshadowed by even a slight change in relative seniority. However people do and will continue to make that particular jump for bases, kinds of flying, layovers, legs per day, etc.
I don't think a single payrate will be in either side's "conceptual" opener anyway. The company may or may not want further banding, but I doubt anything will make it to a TA outside of 3 or 4 bands anyway. That's not enough to quell a whole lot of training churn.
The thing to watch out for will be any attempt to increase training freezes. That should be an automatic no go from our NC. And no they're not going to offer us a billion dollars each to do it so let's not use the old lady of the night arguemenitive trick.