Originally Posted by
JT8D
They have given us at Eagle so many "last, best final offers" that I've lost count, yet here they are bugging us for a deal again! One bluff after the next. That's how Jerry Glass works. It is also proof that they do need us and we do have leverage. Your turd TA is a done deal, "enjoy the shiny airplanes and go away until the next amendable round" type of arrangement. You've got nothing.
According to someone very much in the know, the company is hesitant to make us a good offer in part because they know once you gullible idiots see it, you will be upset. What does that tell you about your deal that you locked yourselves into?
For someone who allegedly voted against your ta, you sure are a loud proponent...
Why would AAG care if we are upset? That is your ace in the hole as to why they won't give you a good deal? Say that to yourself over again in your head and maybe you'll realize how ridiculous it sounds. "AAG won't give Eagle a good deal because PSA pilots will be upset about it."........Go ahead say it.....I'll wait.
Good. Now that we have that out of the way.
If our union actually is talking to the company, which is pure unadulterated rumor at this point all they are trying to do is to make our hiring agreement a little better. Either by increasing the number taken every month, or by making it a full blown flow through. The 12/4 is staying. Again, this was all in their original strategy of "play ball now, improvements later."
As far as me being a proponent of the deal: Hindsight being 20/20 I'd probably vote yes at this point after seeing what happened to PSA voting yes, and Eagle after voting no. It's not because I'm "spineless" or a "sellout" it's because it was the smart decision at that time. We also locked in the really really really good parts of our contract for the next 10 years. Parts of the contract that no one at PSA, pilots included, had any idea were as good as they were at that time. We guaranteed that PSA will exist until 2023 in writing via an agreement for acft. That guarantee, coupled with (maybe) trouble hiring gives PSA leverage in negotiations to possibly get a full flow or an increase in required pilots moving from PSA to AAG per month.
I agree that it "isn't fair" that AAG is posting profits and we need to give but unfortunately that is the name of the game at this point for wholly owns which is a unique situation compared to other regionals. Again, this isn't because I'm "spineless" it's because I can see the writing on the wall.
Your union's mantra that "no one can staff" is clearly untrue as Mesa, Compass, and PSA continue to fill every single class they run.
On a seperate note, what are the upgrade times right now at Eagle? I'd like to throw some rough numbers at you after your response.