Are you seriously saying that it is OUR fault that none of the other carriers achieved appreciably more than us? Really? WE hamstrung THEM??????? Good Lord I thought I heard it all. NOBODY has done anything of note. Nobody. And that is our fault.

Set goals, make statements... yada yada yada. I want action, not talk. The newbies are getting 15% retirement and they don't have to do a damned thing other than breathe. That is better than you and I will ever have done. To say that I don't care is ludicrous. But I cannot worry about a newhire that won't retire for 30 years that already has a projection far better than mine...