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Old 08-06-2014 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
The chart also shows that you get nothing for the first two years after C2012. What is the chance of getting three years of 13.8% in a row? Zero. I was just pointing out that once you get behind, catching up is nearly impossible. In fact, the first time any other pilot group catches us in 2016. And that is just current pay rates, once you get a couple of years out, there is no such thing as full retro pay, it is a myth.

Before C2012 the entire rest of the industry got nothing. In 2013 the rest of the industry got about 20-35% raises and were still behind us. Can you provide any explanation of why 2013 and beyond was so different from 2012 and before? If I showed that chart to 1,000 data analysts, how many would conclude that there was a clear statistical difference between before 2012 and after 2012? All 1,000? I still have not heard one clear explanation about how this difference occurred other than our C2012 changed the entire negotiating dynamic and produced these massive increases amongst the other pilot groups. Please explain it to me.

This is just the normal "lowering of expectations" that has been a forefront of the "old guard" since I have been around!

The BS about "nothing for 2 yeares after 2012" is just the normal regurgitated fear mongering...How about a 10 day, "Tell RA to stand aside while the MEC talks about it" like should have happened ?!? We don't know the result of having a backbone because that didn't happen because TO and the negotiating Chairman "DECIDED" for the MEC that it was good enough and that they would get the votes required to send it to the "never say NO pilots"!

Are we really still falling for this cesspool of attempted unity and lack of cojones?

LP
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