Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
Look at the responses from Carl, LowPhlyer, MD88Driver, etc. All emotional, fact free debates. Find the boogeyman, personal attacks, calls for cojones, foolish conspiracy theories. Seriously, do any of you think you could negotiate with Anderson with those types of tactics? In case you forgot, we all have graduated from grade school a long time ago. I don't really care if you try to use these childish bullying tactics on me.
Is there any chance anyone could address the central questions I asked.
1. Why did all the other airlines fail to improve their contracts before we signed C2012?
2. Why did the world change after we signed C2012?
3. Why hasn't any other pilot group exceeded our rates yet?
4. Are all pilots everywhere and all unions everywhere all failures because they haven't gotten to C2K yet?
My guess is that I will not get any answers, just more propaganda, rhetoric, and personal attack.
Is it wrong to want to see the real physical DALPA opener or the real physical c12 contract survey results well after they have become a historic artifact? When information is withheld and "facts" are one sided (or perceived to be), emotion is all that is left. I am not overly emotional and try to stay away from personal attacks, but objectively, Carl and 88 make good points which aren't answered, but deflected.
It is my considered opinion that Chairman Donatelli should already have put out an information piece about the JV imbalance. Without that, I have to assume it will be knitted into our contract just like Republics violation was in c12.
Carl is clearly and logically correct when he says that our scope is at the company's pleasure. When is a contract not a contract?