As always, we all want the same things (more money and more time off), it's a matter of how we get them that is at question.

I understand the TVM argument. Assuming the end number is the same, I'd prefer to have the money up front. Delta is now making Billions in profit and we took home a 3% pay raise on Jan 1. It seems to me that we left some money on the table. How much, I don't know, just seems odd to me that some on this board who are so proud of C2012 can't admit that Delta could of afforded to pay us more. Looking at the numbers or facts, they can afford to pay us more. It's DALPA's job to get more of that money into our pockets.

I find it interesting that with this last LOA, we turned it down and the company immediately sweetened the pot. I believe that if we would of turned down C2012 the company would of come right back with something better. Why? Because they needed the scope relief to make the RJ-717 upgauge work.

As usual I will not vote for anything that requires fewer pilots to staff the airline. No more TLV increases etc!

Lets hope C2015 is a positive one!