The bold is spot on Herk. I perceive this to be a NB thing and not a WB thing, so I was trying to explain it but I've never done it so I cannot explain it very well I guess.

I don't care about what guys do with WS, that's the system and it's fine as is. What I am trying to do is talk about GS vs 1.5x system, the merger committee chairman explained to me that the GS system is more fair to all pilots then 1.5x which only favors senior pilots. Maybe that was true in 08, but is it true now with the way guys do the drop the whole schedule and WS flying? Because what if 1.5x actually did us better?

But then I think we still need the GS system or nothing gets covered in IROPS.

And then I worry about the guys who will hard fly to the limits, not crazy about that and it's why I want a block hour cap related to the ALV.

So that's why I say, 1.5x + GS + cap in C2015, or maybe? IDK, maybe that's pie in the sky but without a large hourly rate increase it seems like it'd be a decent pay bump. What about:

• 1.5x pay at ## hours of credit,
• You can WS until your block hours = ##, whatever credit you get for doing that good on you.
• GS system... no change.

But I see nothing wrong with dropping your schedule and WS, nada, nothing. Have at it. But I don't want to play that game at 40% seniority and 1.5 hours away from the crew room door IF I left right now.