If this was a one time event you might have a case. That is, if he didn't already have a history of selling scope and undermining the profession. Are you aware of the missed opportunity with regard to Compass. Do you see leadership creating a better industry now and in the future with the Endeavor fiasco? If you ask him directly he will tell you "regional jets cannot be flown economically at mainline". He's always believed this. His approach has derailed the train more than once and answers in part how the line got moved with outsourcing so many times over the last 15 years to the point where 50% of all domestic Delta flying is not performed by Delta pilots.

Look around you! Listen to what Moak says or doesn't (ever) say in ALPA magazine and elsewhere. Look at what Moak did with regard to the UCAL negotiations. Does he promote gains for labor or is he too busy colluding with management to make effective gains? Does he get in the way of individual MEC's being effective? Did you read the pirep from Heide Oberndorf in dealing with Moak who clearly was not helping but rather hurting negotiations? Discount all you want but I believe what she says here...

"Instead of standing up to management and telling the pilots that through solid strategic planning and perseverance we had an excellent chance of success at bringing home an industry leading contract, ALPA decided to undermine our approach and react to the whims of the company and the NMB. ALPA National’s propaganda began to infiltrate the rank & file and soon we had line pilots claiming to be experts on what we could or could not accomplish under the RLA. These “experts” were essentially Lee Moak supporters who agreed with his management-friendly approach to labor negotiations. His plan was little more than a management driven process where we were to take orders from the A4A and their team of lobbyists and advisors, wait as long as management wanted to wait, and take whatever management wanted us to have when the time finally came.

It is my belief that Lee Moak worked in concert with his connections at the A4A to shut us down. The A4A’s CEO and top political lobbyist, Nick Calio (who is now conveniently an editorial writer for Air Line Pilot Magazine), began making calls to Patton Boggs inquiring about the work our advisor was doing for United pilots. Meanwhile Seth Rosen (long time ALPA attorney and Lee Moak’s top negotiations advisor) started to publically discredit our advisor to anyone who would listen. Moak and Pierce’s plan to get rid of our D.C. insider reached a truly astonishing level at a scheduled joint CAL/UAL MEC meeting where Pierce had a select CAL MEC Member leave the room at various times to meet with Seth Rosen who was just outside. Each time, she would return and grill our advisor with virtually the exact same questions that Nick Calio had asked the partners at Patton Boggs. Subsequent calls to Patton Boggs from Calio claimed a “conflict of interest” due to other multi-million dollar accounts that Patton Boggs had with the airlines. This meant that despite the existence of no true conflict, the big money pressure had worked. Under protest, our advisor had to let us go. This is how the game is played in Washington D.C. We had been outmaneuvered from behind by our own Association.

...I find it rather distasteful that our ALPA President invited Doug Mc Keen, Senior VP of Labor Relations for United Airlines, to the IFALPA conference just as UAL/CAL negotiations were heating up.

...Finally, let me be clear that working with management collaboratively is not a bad thing. In fact, it should be encouraged. However, lying in bed with them and allowing management to dictate all terms to us as we go forward in our careers will do nothing more than give the A4A the ability to manage us into extinction."