Originally Posted by
hoserpilot
Thanks for the response guys. I think I read the 45 minute interview thingy from the "other" forum. I don't remember. My big problem with the last few pages of this forum is the over the top reaction. Someone saw smoke and everyone yelled fire!!!! No one bothered to see the smoke was caused by T's BBQ while tailgating... I wish we had more level headed responses and a more civilized debate.
Dal88, it's so hard to not respond on here with real names. Lol. (-:
I also read on one of our forums....maybe it was our Facebook group, that a response from Moak was coming. The poster who spoke with Moak said that.
Hoser,
I understand what you're saying. I just don't really agree with your conclusions about the discussion we've had on this topic. Those quotes, taken at face value, could have pretty serious ramifications for our next contract. We need to be setting expectations for significant restoration, not lowering expectations.
Whether it's our own pilots, management, the NMB, Wall Street, etc.... we need to be setting expectations that bankruptcy was NOT a reset and that we will not ultimately accept a dramatically lower value for compensation for this profession. Without some serious rationalization, Moak's quotes clearly lower expectations. As far as I'm concerned, it's a pretty serious issue. And like I said before... the thing that makes it even more serious in my mind is that my reps actually AGREE with those quotes and see nothing wrong with them.
I understand why you'd like everything to be happy, happy with conversations about rumors, college football, hangar talk, maybe a risque picture or two, etc. I'd like that too. But this IS the "Airline Pilot Central" forum... and I think conversations about trying to dig out of this gigantic hole in which we find ourselves today are relevant, don't you?