Originally Posted by scambo1

It wasn't directed at you specifically. I can see how you'd take it that way from my earlier post. If you go back and read the last two pages, you'd see there is a lot of personal mudslinging. As a regular dessert eater here, it just got old.

L&g is supposed to be fun-ish not laborious.

I want more money and more time off. I've unfortunately had to vote no on everything for more than the past decade. I agree with your arguments and your conclusions about what appeasement has morphed into. I'm not afraid to walk the line.