Originally Posted by
Polarfr8dog
I'll try to make this short but this does belong on the newhire board so they can see what mess they're getting into.
Why are we asking about negotiating ANYTHING while we are so low at the bottom anyway? Look at SEC filings and compare upper management perks, bonuses, and salary compared to the Legacies. THEN go ask yourself why J.C. says we will never give you Delta pay rates. REALLY? Um O.K. then maybe you need to knock your bonuses down, too.
Here's an idea -- from a guy that "doesn't get it" -- AQP: Doesn't that have to be voted on? Well, spread the word for the "no" vote. Then you can go back to management and say I'm sure we could get this thing passed with more compensation (numerous ways to fill in that blank).
I'm sure you've heard this before: The pen is mightier than the sword. Yep, don't know who said it but I know it's been said. After all, I'm just a guy that "doesn't get it" Enough is enough.
For you potential new hires you need to know this so I won't be moving it to another board. Good Luck in getting here.
I can agree with a caveat: As long as the conversation remains primarily oriented to providing information to folks looking to join us here at Atlas then it's indeed of value. If the thread morphs in to a bickering complaint board about union stuff (as all too often happens) then the original purpose of this thread evaporates and any value to prospective Atlas pilots will be lost. That would be a shame as for many years this has been an exceptionally valuable resource.