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Old 08-21-2014 | 11:10 AM
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sailingfun
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I agree that the downtown language is well intended, and results in some great layovers. As with almost everything, strict parameters usually backfire from time to time. I think where we're at now with the language is pretty good. I'm just concerned that we may have given up some layovers that cost the company money while not getting anything in return.

It costs money to get Manhattan overnights plus transportation compared to closer in stays. When we changed some of those layovers, we provided the company financial relief from previous contract language that we bargained and essentially paid for previously. IMO most of that money should have been redirected back to us immediately.

In any case, we need the flexibility across the network to help pick the best layover locations per hours on the ground. There is no "one size fits all" hourly parameter that is optimal in all cases.
So we go to the company and tell them pilots don't want 12 to 14 hour layovers downtown in NYC. The company says ok we agree and will fix it. Then we say pay us to fix it!
Reminds me of short call verses long call. Once we were on short call every day. We negotiated a long call system with management and then pilots started saying short call sucks we should be paid extra for it!

Last edited by sailingfun; 08-21-2014 at 11:30 AM.
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