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Old 08-21-2014 | 09:13 PM
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Nevets
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Default What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?

Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Not to be argumentative, but if there is no check in, what does the company do in that rare event when someone's alarm clock doesn't go off, or they get in a car wreck, or their commuter flight diverts, or security shuts down, etc? Cancel the flight? Seriously Luis, inquiring minds want to know. The sense of entitlement over there is just astounding.

Entitlement? Yeah, we feel entitled to our QOL and compensation, just as you are entitled to feel about your QOL and compensation. But somehow when you guys want that, it's ok. But when we want that, you guys are befuddled. Talk about entitlement, you want it but won't even give us the courtesy for us to fight for it without throwing a fit over it.

What happens? The other pilot is required to call if the other isn't there at show time. Crew scheduling then assigns an airport standby or assign it to the next guy on reserve. The pilot not making it gets to explain it to his Cheif pilot. This isn't rocket science and it's been the way we been doing it for almost 10 years. And despite that, CCF has been among the highest. Well not since Skywest bought us but that's a different story.


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
I think we all know that "same thing they always do" isn't a good idea going forward. Having to check in provides an opportunity for revovery by the company in the event something happens, which, I believe, is what Captain Tony was alluding to.

We've been doing this for YEARS! Historically we've had the best CCF numbers despite having this in our contract. This goes back to before ATL was running the show. So what changed? Not our check in requirement or lack there of. Why should our QOL suffer because of other's incompetence? I wouldn't ask that of you!


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Checking in isn't a big issue. You check in at the gate before morning departures already, even if you don't realize it. Try not showing up in the am after an overnight and see if you get a call then. Giving a little heads up that you are there by means of hitting check in on a computer or phone or ipad, or even making a phone call....no big deal.
At least it gives a bit of time to try and salvage an on time departure and keep the operation running.
We have it pretty good really.

You'd have it even better if you didn't have to check in. If my car breaks down, I call. If I miss my commute, I call. If I'm sick, I call. If my commute diverts, I call as soon as I land. If I'm running late because of traffic/accident, I call. If everything is going as planned, as it usually does 95% of the time, I just show up at the gate. It's the same you would do except for we are not required to check in. It makes a difference when I only have to call 5% of the time rather than having to check in at some crew room computer 100% of the time and also call that 5% of the time. Trust me, this makes tight commutes possible. It's made the difference between commuting the night before or the day off.

Last edited by Nevets; 08-21-2014 at 09:25 PM.