Originally Posted by CptGSXR

Alright, guys. Easy way to end this. Look at AA and what their last contract offer was for Envoy or look at any of the crap rates management wants for new 175 flying at the smaller regionals.

I'd like to say that Envoy EJ and RAH all did the regional pilots a service by voting No to those horrible TAs. But lets not kid ourselves, it just means someone else will lowball the industry to fly big jets. These concessions will just keep pilots poor and out of the Majors longer as it means less overall flying and therefore less overall staffing.

So it really doesn't matter what a bunch of people say on a message board, the current facts dictate the pay and QoL at the regional level, meaning even if you made a compelling argument that regional management 'could' offer a better contract to it's pilot group, they still 'wont' because they know it's the only way into the industry. And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why being stuck at the regionals makes their entire argument a lie. It's not a stepping stone if there is no second step up to take.