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Old 08-25-2014 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
True. Sometimes the camel walks backwards, though. NWA had them, now they/we don't. I suppose ANC-ATL or LIM-ATL are so much better?
Here ya go... to refresh your memory from about 5 posts ago...

Originally Posted by tsquare
If I could outlaw 2 man allnighters I would do that too...
And then there is this:

Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Who says that the hypothetical (and that is all it is) ATL-SAV, 6 hr hotel, SAV-ATL example is flying fatigued? In my 3 years on the 88, I found a 4-day trip with lots of legs and early reports to be very fatiguing. Do we ban those?
I KNOW for a fact, that if I get saddled with one of those 2 hour legs, then "minimum rest" or whatever they determine "safe" being something less than about 6 hours behind the door... I will not be able to function. Especially when you throw in IROPS... (And I guess protection might mean a enough rest to bring you up to merely exhausted rather than fatigued) If there is some protection to allow us to opt out of this altogether, then have at it. Of course that is another thing that can be taken away in a future negotiation, which gives me pause to approve this insanity.. but that is another discussion I think. I prefer not to let the camel anywhere near the tent on this one.....

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