Originally Posted by
Free Bird
Offsetting a concession doesn't negate the fact they we still gave a concession. Despite what many on this board say or justify, many of us bottom 15%ers haven't seen much movement despite the retirements and growth.
How is it that we have 500-600 new captains in the last year and I've moved up in the 88B cat about 15 numbers, I just recently broke the 50% in category barrier.
I'm not anti ALPA, but it gets old hearing Sailing, Alfa etc tell us how good things are as we work more than we did post BK! I can't dispute the barrage of data that comes from the usual suspects, I just know that the message that you guys are delivering is far different than the reality that many of us are living.
The company is making huge profits (just as they predicted they would) and we got a 3% pay raise on Jan. 1. Good thing we didn't leave any money on the table?
FB,
The stagnation has been very, very frustrating for most of us. Hopefully we will all start moving up - I am at 15 years and still a NB FO (by choice) and would love for this movement to continue.
Yes Sailing and Alfa often take a very positive look at things but that is OK. They have been here longer than most of us and have a lot more history to draw from.
I am just as frustrated when I see guys who have been 6 or 7 years complain how unfair the reserve system is. Reserve used to be 100% seniority weighted. Then seniority was totally removed, and now it is partially weighted - in my opinion a very good compromise system that could still use some fine tuning (SC assignments in particular).
My perspective is not unique - many 1999 and 2000 hires saw a couple of great years, followed by furlough, BK, and the slow crawl back.
I don't always agree with the guys you refer to - Sailing, Alfa, etc, but I do appreciate that they have seen everything we have seen at DAL plus one or two more up and down cycles and so they often have the best perspective on many issues.
Scoop
