Originally Posted by
forgot to bid
You guys hating on 07 hires, and I hate them too their senior to me, but you realize that reserve is a category by category thing right? What about all of the 1991 hires sitting reserve as Captains, didn't they pay their dues? Getting back at the spoiled 07 hires and after via a pay your dues reserve system does nothing for a vast majority of those on reserve.
And frankly, a reserve system that gives a pilot a month off with pay is a reserve system the company can easily fix and be thankful that you showed where the fat was.
No one hates 2007 hires. Only the argument that we need to go back to the system we all worked under at the time they were hired. And I don't think anyone is trying to design a system where we "get back" at 2007 guys, or you.
I think we're all trying to develop a system that's fair, and ordering flying by seniority, provided no one has to shoulder the entire load, is fair. I think most people are coming into this discussion from a perspective of trying to make things better for all pilots, including junior captains (I really mean it).
I get the impression you're coming at this from the perspective that everyone needs to fly based on RAW scores, by restricting the size of RAW buckets, so that senior guys don't get to pass on anything. My apologies if I'm mis-representing your viewpoint, but that's the theme I'm getting out of your arguments: it's not fair for a senior guy to "escape" a trip, because back when you started, they couldn't.