Originally Posted by
scambo1
Well, my hero, I may have said mainline wouldn't grow, but I am allowed to change my viewpoint based upon what actually happens. Or am I frozen in one position from two years ago? Am I allowed to change my view?
I have never changed my story that the 717s wouldn't have come. They were too good of a deal. You, on the other hand, are the one that said they wouldn't come unless we signed on the dotted line. I believe you and your cronies tied c12 to 717s when in fact they were separate events and opportunities.
Management gave us a contract partially funded by concessions to expand DCI scope to buy desireable RJs. I was not the one that ever linked 717s to the contract, that was DALPA.
I done know where web board talking points come from. My mind has it's own perceptions and views. Some people say things better than I do. Does that make them talking points. I don't write anything unless it is my perception. Nobody prompts me, I don't strategize with anyone.
I've heard you're a smart guy. It's too bad you're not a nice guy. My perception is you have done some good things. I have no doubt you have worked hard and done what you think is right. I don't know why you have to view opposing views as the enemy, but that's your cross to bear.
Well, right back at you. Maybe you should go back and read some of what you have written in the past and see if you are just getting a taste of your own medicine here. My frustration is the continued hashing and rehashing of the same tired talking points, all completely invented. I guess your assertion that the reasoning behind the deal was all just a fairy tale meant to deliberately mislead the pilots is just nice guy talk? Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
The 717's were a good deal and so were the A-319's that they were looking at. The 717's were all or nothing so they had to find a way to unlock the financing and flying commitments on the 50 seaters in order to take the whole lot. If they couldn't get that, they would just take many fewer A-319's, keep a number of the 50 seaters, and let the 717's go elsewhere.
If the RJ-76's were not the key to unlocking the financing and flying commitments for the 50 seaters, then you must have some reason why all those third parties deliberately let Delta out of their contracts. Do you have an answer to that?
It shouldn't be too much to ask, that when you make definitive statements like "the 717's were coming anyway" that you have some logical explanation to back it up. You accuse me of lying about those aircraft and then get all touchy feely when it comes back at you.