Yeah, I might could live with that. Hopefully, like you say, management couldn't and then we would be done with the consideration of these horrid things once and for all. I'd also have to have the restriction where no one who didn't want to fly one of these had to. Maybe some kind of opt-in system where if you didn't opt-in then you couldn't be assigned one, even on reserve. And then of course I'd have to check early morning flights before nonreving. That would eliminate some of the nonrev benefit for me. Anyway, as long as I don't have to fly them and I don't have to ride in the back of an airplane with someone flying that morning flight after a CDO... I guess I'm good with it. But then again, I remember how devastating it was when I was at TWA and we lost an airplane full of people... Oh, and I'd also want to not be required to DH on an early morning flight flown by a CDO crew. Actually, the more I think about it... I'm still against them.