Originally Posted by JohnGardner

I wish I had the time to properly respond to your post. I'm going to respond but I'm not going to do your post justice so I apologize.

This idea of the regionals need to clear profit on their own fails by your very arguments about the fact that we don't sell our own tickets. The simple fact is it is a lie for management right now to be saying that they need cost-cutting at the regionals. They don't need it, they want it. Big difference. The fact is the airline needs to make a profit on the tickets they sell from departure station to ultimate arrival station. If that includes regionals then so be it. But they don't need to make money on every single leg. If they are making $200 on a mainline leg and losing five dollars on the regional leg is still made $195.

Eagle negotiated at the direction of their pilots. They obtained the best deal they could from management and the eagle pilots voted it down. If you are asserting that the eagle union leadership should have been selling a deal to the pilots that they didn't want then you're suggesting misrepresentation by union officers. No one but management bears blame for negotiating from a standpoint of saying they need something they don't.

All that said, PSA knew exactly what they were getting themselves into, their union leadership knew exactly what was being asked of them and what was being promised to them. Their deal for the 900s was clearly a concessionary deal in order to take aircraft from eagle. Whether or not that was the reality of the situation is a separate debate. But the fact is they were voting yes to take concessions to take aircraft from Eagle.

People can try to apologize for it all they like on here. The simple fact is the vote was to knowingly take eagle airplanes.