ALL regional airlines suck compared to the majors. Envoy pilots fell on the sword and took a stand when no one else would. Unfortunately, management was NOT bluffing and now they will be slowly shrunk into non existence like Comair. Even ALPA agrees that there is not a shortage. There will never be a lack of pilots unless all regionals are represented as one. Who cares though? Senior regional captains and stagnant FOs are the only ones pi**ed off enough to vote for this. So I guess if you are an 8 year FO at Envoy or Endeavor what is stopping you from going to PSA for a year, upgrading, and then getting on at Spirit, JB, etc.... You all are bickering back an forth about starting FO pay! Who cares. The music is playing right now and if you don't upgrade and move on, hundreds of others will in your place. Leave your failing regional, let it crumble behind you, and move on with your career.