Originally Posted by
DAL 88 Driver
Oh come on. How stupid do you think we are?
Let's look at the 767 Captain rate for example:
2004 (C2K) rate: $267.52
At 78 hours monthly average (I'm guessing that's not too far off from what guys were averaging back then) and adjusting for inflation, that would be $314,428.22 today.
Current rate: $219.62
At 87 hours (the last average I saw from DALPA), that would be $229,283.28.
The difference between working 78 hours in a month and 87 would be at least another day on average possibly 2. So today's 767 Captain works a day or two more to get $85K less flight pay.
I'm not buying your assertion that you're anywhere even remotely close to C2K adjusted for inflation, even with profit sharing... unless you're flying a bunch of green slips or something.
Never said anyone was stupid!!! Nor do I claim that, we are all fairly intelligent folks who can use or discount the data I showed.
Also.....I don't think I'm a 767 CA, but I could be wrong. Never ever said I was the "average" or "we are all doing xxx", I said it was MY personal math. YMMV.
I had a couple greenies, but I pulled back 12 days worth of flying at my average to balance out that I worked about a day more per month than the 12-13 back then. (It would have probably actually driven my avg. hrs./day up slightly, but its better to use a lower number and be more conservative when mentioning a current situation).
I also made a note that international pilots have a bigger gap to close than I did.
I showed fairly detailed math, with examples. What are your days of work and pay hours accrued for the year (including CQ/bank deposits/Dist. Trng.)?
I do agree with your 78 hours or so... I actually used 79:15 for my 2004 example, it's better to overstate the comparator for where you want to be, makes it a higher goal to attain.