I believe that there are about 3 or so very negative people on here that may or may not work for g4 that really turn people away. Why you ask? Because thats what they want to do. Like they have said "stay away till we get a contract". This is just a ploy. I have friends that work at g4 and love it. One is a Dec 2013 nh and is number 2 now on the seniority list for the fo side in his base. He is also a commuter and is still happy. Was training a mess? Yes it was, but now everything is in house and at the new training facility and not pan am's. Is it perfect? No, but who is? Hope this helps people that are on the fence.