I'd really like to see you elaborate on that a little more. You say your personal viewpoint is not very far off from mine but you prefer the current method for achieving what you and I both want. How exactly would that work? So far, it has been very ineffective in achieving restoration or even putting us on a vector that has any prayer of achieving restoration. We took a 42% cumulative pay cut to our pay rates just before and during bankruptcy, and 10 years later our pay rates are still 34% below those rates adjusted for inflation. That is VERY little progress. If "proactive engagement" hasn't been effective towards restoration in 10 years, what makes you think it's going to start now?

And don't get me wrong... I'm all for proactive engagement as long as both sides are benefiting relatively equally from it. But when one side is taking extreme advantage of the other, I think it's time (past time) to rethink that.