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Old 09-11-2014 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Balder
Not blaming JC so much, he just did what he felt was his job. I am blaming you and Herb and Goldstein for taking his bait. And apparently you still believe JC and yourselves did the right thing. That is scary to me.
The pilot group elected someone else into the ALPA leadership positions when they realized what was going on. You have been campaigning (SpiritBboard and bar meetings...) ever since against the majority of the pilot group and that new leadership.
I am just one pilot, not part of any ALPA strategic campaign. I am just asking questions to try do determine if you are up to same old BS, or if you have learned something over the last 7 years. Right now the it looks like the same old BS.

And to think I might have given you credit for actually being willing to have a real discussion.

Your comment about me and Herb and Goldstein shows your lack of grasp of anything of substance from that time period. JC came to town, and the four MEC members took advantage of that change to try and advance the pilots position, seven or eight months before I was anything but the last guy flying MD80's. It wasn't just Herb and Goldstein, it was both DTW Reps and both FLL reps. Reps doing the jobs they were elected to do. MEC Chairmen are not responsible for making policy nor decisions, they are administrators. MEC Chairmen only become dictators when their MEC's set them up to be dictators. You can't have it both ways, the elected reps are responsible no matter how much you want in to be otherwise. And let me remind you this, your DTW local attempted a recall of your FO rep in the fall of 2006 that was unsuccessful. UNSUCCESSFUL! That rep was pivotal in changing the SPA MEC from openly adversarial to Spirit to a working relationship, and he had enough support to withstand a recall.

You may wish for history to be remembered differently from what actually occurred, but wishing so doesn't make it so.

But at least your trying to move the group forward, we got that going for us!