Originally Posted by Timbo

Yeah, as a 4,500hr. ATP rated civilian going through AF UPT, I always thought it was funny they would spend more time briefing than flying! 90 minute brief for a one hour flight!

One day my T37 IP asked me, "So...when you were flying freight...what did you guys brief?"

I said, "Nothing, we got in the plane, we started it up, and we went flying..."

He said, "Well, what about the weather? Didn't you brief the weather, and the approaches?"

I said, "Nope, we didn't give a sh!t what the weather was, we just went. We had to go anyway or we'd get fired. If the weather at the destination was bad...well...we found it anyway."

He said, "So you busted Mins?"

I said, "No, we just found the runway and landed."

Tower would sometimes ask us, "What's the ceiling out there?" and we'd answer, "It's right AT mins..."

(Freight dog code for...it's bleak)

Another Guard Guy with 3,500hrs. and a DC 8 copilot prior (Rich Air, out of MIA, flying 'stuff' to South America), who was in my UPT class said of AF Pilot Training,

"The SOF keeps a piece of blue plastic behind his desk. Every morning he holds it up to the sky, and if the colors don't match it's 'no solo's to the areas'! I just hope that when the Russians come, the weather is good!"