DAL, AA, UAL and a lot of others have no training pay...everyone starts at first year pay day 1, often with full benefits day 1.

We need to make it better for new guys....if we can't get enough new pilots, we could easily shrink in size, with no upgrades and even captain's being downgraded...that is my biggest worry here.

With so many guys retiring/medicalling out, if we can't do better at retention and new hires, it could really cause a lot of problems.

I want International Gateway Basing...no more imputed income is one advantage, asking with more company flexibility, and everyone on first year pay day one.

If atlas isn't improving, then it is getting worse and in danger of going under. We need to make things better for everyone, including prospective new hires. We already have probably 60% of potential pilots who wine cine here because if two weeks+ on the road...we need to make it more attractive....and not just improve the contract for the 10%.