Originally Posted by pagey

Of course they all use F&H. They would be foolish not to.

That doesn't change the fact that the negotiating landscape at regionals and majors are totally different.

"vote this in or we shut you down" is not a valid threat at DAL/UAL/AAG/Blue/etc, etc. A Delta Airlines flight on Delta Airlines metal will be flown by a Delta Airlines pilot, period.

At a wholly owned, not only is it a credible threat but it is also completely in their power to act out as evidenced at least in part by the 47 700s moving from Eagle. PSA's total fleet previously was only 49 acft, PDTs I think is something like 38.

In the current environment mainline unions are flush with some pretty good negotiating capital. There will always be a little give and take with new contracts, thats why it's called "negotiating." Rest assured though that mainline contracts will see good gains in the near future. Hopefully it doesn't come at the cost of further scope erosion. That same scope that is giving them the leverage in the first place. I am optimistic this is not the case because I believe that mainline pilots have "seen the light" that scope is a major issue to their personal job security. As long as the current scope clauses become the new stopping point regional negotiations will remain regional negotiations. Nothing will be "following" anyone to mainline.

You guys made a calculated gamble based on some (probably) incorrect information that unfortunately proved to be the wrong move. However, Eagle's situation right now is in no way a microcosm of upcoming legacy contract negotiations.